I could see it bein a bridge from Lateralus, and maybe I am unfairly comparing it way too early.

I think they have more in them than that. Vicarious is perfectly put together, and it does change, but almost everything in the song can be traced directly to somethin they've done before. I hate shredding, but there is no denying that Steve Vai is an awesome guitar player. When one reviews music history, this isn't what one finds to be a necessary characteristic of great music.Ī song can inspire awe, even if you hate it. I don't understand the requirement for an immediate, obvious, in your face change in order for a piece of art to be outstanding. Art, particularly music, needs perspective to be understood.Īck, I know I'm sounding pedantic so I'll stop now. Sometimes the change is huge and in your face, and other times it's not so apparent and you don't get it until the next work, when you can go back and reanalyse the older work and see the progression. the small changes that ultimately show the difference in growth. And with creativity among great artists, it's often the small things. I doubt anyone wants to read my early morning rants on this general topic so I won't refer anyone to them, but to me, being derivative of one's self makes sense. Please don't take this as a personal attack. The fact that you say it's awesome, then go on to talk about how the album will be weak if it's 'derivative' like this song, makes no sense to me. I just don't understand the logic of the complaint. I am awaiting the rest of the album to really judge it, but if half the songs are as derivative, of their older stuff, as Vicarious, the album will be weak by comparison to the rest of Tool's catalog. The rhythm is is straight outta the Grudge Heavy part is basically right outta Schism I think people have a right to gripe, but they still cant deny the awesomosity of the song. The entire song is lifted from Tool's back catalog. If another band had produced this, you'd have something to bitch about but this is Tool, fcol. Yes, it's related to Lateralus but so what? It's coming from the same place. Personally, I think the song is fantastic. Considering that Maynard has APC, which is vocally driven, he may have gone along with it. Regarding the vocals, we might be in a situation which as someone pointed out in the other thread, the guitarist (Who writes the music in this band? I don't know that much about how they compose) doesn't want Maynard above the music. I really don't understand why this bothers people unless they don't like the band or song writer in the first place. Yes, like Severed Hand is more of the same and everything Trent Reznor writes sounds the same because it's Trent Reznor.

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